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 Eco Cents

« on: February 16, 2008, 06:56:59 AM »
An independent company would assess the environmental and humanistic costs of various products.  These would be eco cents, and it would simply be a price tag that would appear next to the regular cost of a product.  For example, next to a slab of steak it might cost $3.37, but then $8.00 in ecocents, where as the equal amount of salmon would cost $2.30, but $1.00 in ecocents.

This would create a massive market pressure to create products that are environmentally friendly and come from humane workers because the buyer would be aware of which products were environmentally friendly and treated their employees better.  And those who did, would be rewarded vastly because people hate being exploited, and it is the people that have the buying power.

These labels could be created by the government, by creating a department that drew on the IRS and FDA.
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 Re: Eco Cents

« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 09:56:58 PM »
So it would work a bit like the "Carbon Credit" scheme?
 
The carbon credit scheme has been implemented in Europe and is hopefully soon to be added in Australia. Basically, my unuderstanding is that the government has a set number of carbon credits and sells them to companies. Carbon credits allow a company to output a set amount of noxious gasses into the environment, to put out more filth that have to purchase carbon credits. The credits can be sold between companies so a company has cut back on pollution can sell them on to a company that is still chugging it out. This basically means that in the long rund, it is cheaper for a company to reassess their environmental impact and cut back pollution than continue purchasing carbon credits. I good system that is based on money which is the only way to talk to large companies sometimes.
 
With these eco "sense" would they be for show only? I can't see this having a massive impact if they were just to illustrate how harmful they are to the environment. At the end of the day, the way to make most consumers change their purchasing habits is to hit them in the hip pocket!
 
In Australia, a lot of our farmers are in strife with drought but the public still buy products from overseas (even though it is mandatory for supermarkets to mark what products are Australian and what products are imported) because they are cheaper.
 
I think it would be good if the end consumer had to pay these eco cents on top of the product which goes to a neutral organisation that nullifies the impact of the product. The cleaner the product is to make, the less eco cents we would have to pay and the product would be cheaper thus purchased by the consumer!
 
Is that sort of what you were getting at?
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 Re: Eco Cents

« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 02:33:36 PM »
The carbon credit system isn't for consumers, and is actually in many ways promoting pollution.  There is no way that this could encourage pollution, so I don't think it is like that.

I think you underestimate the impact this would have, and by a LONG shot.  When choosing between two products, when conflicted or close to conflicted on everything else they will go with the one that cost the smallest amount of eco cents.  I mean, most people just don't know what to do about saving the environment, but really want to make a difference.  If they had to spend 25 cents more at the store to save the environment, I think that they would.  I honestly believe that consumer activism is the best form of activism that there is, but it's as inert as people are oblivious.  This would force an awareness of the ecological and humanistic impact of products.  And it would create a HUUUUGE market pressure to support humane products.
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 Re: Eco Cents

« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 05:46:35 PM »
I can see where your heading with this and seems like an alright idea apart from that alot of people would rather save their few cents and buy something cheaper than spend more money on something else that is better. Also the people that have always bought a certain item (from a certain label) and will continue to do so. Some people would of course try and buy the good one, but I can't see most people doing it. At the end of the day, you need all the money you can get usually (especially with prices rising so much and people who don't have much money in the first place) Smiley
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 Re: Eco Cents

« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 08:25:53 AM »
I can see where your heading with this and seems like an alright idea apart from that alot of people would rather save their few cents and buy something cheaper than spend more money on something else that is better. Also the people that have always bought a certain item (from a certain label) and will continue to do so. Some people would of course try and buy the good one, but I can't see most people doing it. At the end of the day, you need all the money you can get usually (especially with prices rising so much and people who don't have much money in the first place) Smiley

Of course a lot of people would rather just save a few cents and let the environment and their fellow man suffer.  But this would allow people who DO care to support the good rather than the bad.  I would love to pay an extra dollar when I go grocery shopping to make sure that I don't support child labor.  And it isn't a matter of not being able to afford - the vast majority of people can afford to pay an extra dollar or two when they do their grocery shopping.

Also, if the person ringing you out said how much it cost in ecocents, and printed it on the receipt, it would make people feel bad.  And if someone created a website where it let people just pay that balance, a nonprofit, like donating to the humane society after feeling bad for kicking a dog, I think that it would make even more money.
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 Re: Eco Cents

« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2008, 07:53:14 PM »
I think we've been misunderstanding what you were saying.

When you were talking about eco cents, I was thinking this is a two way reward system.

A product is "marked-up" if the company producing it doesn't meet stringent standards in eco management. This additional pricing makes their products less attractive to consumers so gives the producing company an incentive to clean up their act. The "marked-up" difference is then given to an environmental company to offset what went into producing it. In other words, if the consumer has no choice when buying that product.

From a consumer stand point, products that are from companies that control their environmental impact don't have as large a/ or any eco cent markup and therefore aren't as expensive so they support an efficient company. If the consumer takes the eco cent marked up product the eco cents immediately offset the wastage in creating it.

That's what I thought you were saying but what you are actually saying is to implement something like what many airlines already have? A carbon offset program where you can offset your environmental footprint at time/or later of purchase. An amount is calculated based on what you purchased and the customer has a choice of whether to pay or not?

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